Комментарии к сообщению #41149

To Vadim + Tihonov St . : V Angllii est' 4 stadii bolel'shchikov 1- Supporter - Mozhet zhit' dazhe v Turtsii no bolet' za MU , smotrit igry po TV , pokupaet attributiku , kol' zhivet v gogrode hodit na 3-4 matcha v god ; 2 - Fan - imeet sezonnyi bilet , esli mozhet pozvolit' , hodit s sem'yei i druz'yami na futbol , naverno 3-4 pokolenie v sem'ye boleet za komandu ; 3 - takih prosto nazyvayut po imeni komandy : I. E . : " I saw a few buses arrive , they were Villa " ili , " A hundred or so stayed for a while after a game , they were Tottenham " . Eti bolel'shchiki , kotorye sperva kupyat abonement , a uzh potom zaplatyat rentu , ili budut kushat' . Drak ne nachnut , kresel rvat' ne budut , no za sebya postoyat , esli uvidyat chto lyuboi bolel'shchik komandy v opasnosti , vyruchat . Kol' za rubezhom , budut videt' igru komandy lyuboi tsenoi . V etom godu videl FA Cup Final v SF , s 400 takimi bolel'shchikami Chelsea i Arsenala . Vse stoyali v bare , prosto vplotnuyu v 6 utra. Posle igry vyplesnulis' vo dvor , krichali , smeyalis' , tolkovali , peli , ya nashel odnogo pevtsa is Anglli , pozvonil osharashennoi zhene , i on eyo serenadirval . No nikakih stychek ne bylo , prosto 400 chelovek vlyublennyh v svoyu komandu . 4/ Hooligan - poyasnenii ne nado , vidno samye blizkie k russkim fanatam . Ves' fenomenon fanatov vosprinimayu kak "side effect " 2 prichin - 1/ Isporchennyi telefon mezhdu Zapadom i Vostochnnoi Evropoi na protyazhenni poslednit 30 let . Pomnyu dzhinsy za 180 rublei , i plohie zapisi Sweet i Smokie , o kotoryh na Zapade nikto dazhe ne znal . 2/- Tyazheloe ekonomicheskoe sostoyanie strany . Ved' ne sluchaino " hooliganizm " razgorelsya v Anglii vo vremya ekonomicheskogo krizisa , a seichas samye tyazhelye incidenty proishodyat v Argentine , Afrike , Salvadore , Gretsii ( v Marseille vo Frantsii ) , tam gde tsarstvuet " temnoe budushchee " dlya molodezhi . Kogda net sredstv i rabot , molodye skoree kupyat bilety na futbol chem semeinye lyudi , i nuzhen " receptacle " dlya negativnyh emotsii , dobav'te k etomy traditsionnoe " svyatoe delo " ; politicheskie , i natsionalisticheskie " growing pains " i poluchaetsya Russkii fanaticheskii " kompot " ( IMHO ) , razgoraemyi kak koster benzinom , melanholicheskoi i zloi na ves' mir militsiei . Interesno chto v Anglii "hooligans " ne uvazhayut , i obychno schitayut chto u nih drugaya agenda , kromye komandy . Pochti chto vse draki za granitsei nachinayut neo-nazisty k kotorym poz'zhe primykayut bolel'shchiki . V Kopengagene byli hooligany iz vsei Anglli . No rukovodstvo Arsenala , pozhizneno zapretilo prodavat' bilety lyubym bolel'shchikam kotorye uchastvovali v " Galatasariskih Bitvah " .eto ne pomeshalo Arsenalu rasprodavat' vse igry , so srednei tsenoi $ 50 za prostoi bilet , i stroit' novyi 60,000 stadion . Naschet budushchego Anglii , soglasen s Vadimom , Beckham eto pravoe kryloa ne tsentrovoi . Takogo u Anglii net , kak i vratarya . Gerarda vsegda tyanet vlevo , i on igraet levogo tsentrovogo v 4-4-2 , v 4-3-3 , ili 3-5-2 , 4-3-1-2 on tsentrovogo ne potyanet ni fiziki net , ni vidimosti polya a la Juninho ili dazhe Verona . Sinclair , Parlour , Scholes , hikto iz " Leedskoi molodezhi " , Lampard , Hendry , Wise na etu positsiyu ne godyat'sya tozhe . problema v tom chto luchshie tsentrobye v Anglii , ne Anglichane - Keane , Veron , Viera , Petite , Silva , Kewell i.t.d , Anderton vsegda pokalechen , McManaman sidit na skameike v Reale , da i levyi flang lyubit bol'she , velikii Gazza pohozh na grushu . Govorya s Anglliskimi boleshchikami , oni pravda bolee setuyut na otsutsvie vratarya , Seaman poteryal golovu , Martin i Flowers slishkom stary , Wright i Walker slishkom stary , i opyat' slishkom mnogo inostrantsev - Baardsen , Keller , Hedman , Barthez , Friedel , Dudek , Simonsen , davnii drug iz Fullhama , Cudicini , Bosnich i.t.d. . Nu vse zagovorilsya - vsem zdorov'ya i uspehov . Vadim : Hopefully things are looking up , since you're attending games . I've got a busy schedule myself , have been an Angel fan for 20 years , got tickets for Yankees playoffs on Saturday , in 40 years they've never won a playoff series , and to beat the Yankees would be unfathomable l, plus the seats are REALLy good . Next week hockey starts , first game on Wedneday is Kings - Coyotes , and it is Gretzky's jersey retirement game . being blessed with 2 hockey teams - Kings + Ducks , following Saturday and Sunday we'll see both of them playing Red Wings , and if Angels will make it farther championship Series will start that weekend . Following week ther's Kings- Ducks , and Ducks - Colorado . My soccer team here - earthquakes is out of the playoffs , but I am not too upset , given they won the Championship last year . All the best again to the family , do you take your daughter to the games ? Sarah has been going everywhere since she's been 3 months old , and loves it . Reagrds .